Dollhouse: Why You Shouldn't Quit Watching (Yet)

[Phyll33]

I started to read the first post but I saw references to eps that haven't aired yet, and since I really want to remain completely unspoiled, I didn't continue the entire post.

That said, after seeing last night's ep, I agree, we should hold on for a bit. I liked it better. LOVED seeing Mark.

I'm glad there is a deeper, darker backstory, but the 'deep' stuff might be too 'deep', cuz the 'shallow' stuff was just that for me...way too shallow and transparent. The only think I'm hoping for is that I'm proved wrong on the things I'm thinking.

Just in case there are those out there who have a wacky tv viewing habit like mine:

[spoiler]I knew the guy was going to hunt her as soon as he was out there in the woods with her, talking about his dad's views and 'the hunt'....didn't help that the previews of the show gave enough away that that showed too....[/spoiler]

I'm also hoping that us having to keep 'going back and forth in thyme', noted by Joss' uses of the over staturation of color is just because of all that 'trouble' we kept hearing about...and he's trying to fit in the puzzle pieces for the studio's sake. Even a puzzle lover like myself is getting a little distracted by it.

I mean, from what I heard that was basically the reason "Daybreak" failed, is that people didn't like having to try to keep track of the 'when'. *shrug*

I still have a dislike for Ms. D, sorry guys, but I too would have rather seen Summer in this role. Can't help but believe that Ms. D saw herself as 'Playing Summer better'...and wanted that chance.

I'll keep watching as long as the line up stays the same. I'm glad it's on Fridays, for all the reasons Friday is usually the 'death night'...I don't go anywhere, so at least there is something on to watch. Not like on other nights when there are literally THREE things on opposing channels that I'd love to get involved with.

Oh, and now I"m wishing I'd tried to get caught up with Terminator...it looks a zillion times better than the last thyme I watched.

  The previews did give the main theme of the show away didn't it. It's getting a little confusing and needs
to be watched more than once to get what's going on with the backstory. The trouble is I don't feel like
watching it more than once which is a big downer for any DVD's to come. Joss's shows have always been
eminently rewatchable and this isn't.

  Summer may not have had the sexy chops going though. I'm sure she could have done it but for some
reason she just doesn't come across that way. She is a little too cool in that respect.

[Spooky]

I mean, from what I heard that was basically the reason "Daybreak" failed, is that people didn't like having to try to keep track of the 'when'. *shrug*

People (as in viewers) or the studio stooges? I know so many people who liked and "got" Daybreak. I don't think the problem was with us... it was "them" and "they" didn't  think we were smart enough follow.

[Spooky]

I still have a dislike for Ms. D, sorry guys, but I too would have rather seen Summer in this role.

Agreed. I don't dislike Eliza, but I don't think she has the chops to carry a show (she could get better). I had the same feeling watching True Calling.  If they'd had a stronger actress in that roll, I think it might have survived.

[Saxon]

I mean, from what I heard that was basically the reason "Daybreak" failed, is that people didn't like having to try to keep track of the 'when'. *shrug*

People (as in viewers) or the studio stooges? I know so many people who liked and "got" Daybreak. I don't think the problem was with us... it was "them" and "they" didn't  think we were smart enough follow.

Exactly! I'd never had as much fun deciphering a show since my old X-files days while Daybreak was on. That was a big mistake to drop it. I could see it moving to TNT and making it big. They seem to be getting some really good shows going there!

[Saxon]

I still have a dislike for Ms. D, sorry guys, but I too would have rather seen Summer in this role.

Agreed. I don't dislike Eliza, but I don't think she has the chops to carry a show (she could get better). I had the same feeling watching True Calling.  If they'd had a stronger actress in that roll, I think it might have survived.

Yep, again, I liked that show, just didn't like her.

[Phyll33]

  I watched the 3rd episode last night and have to agree it is getting better and saw some Firefly attitude
in there but the problem I have with Joss is he is very formulaic. He reminds me of a very popular author
I read who writes the same story over and over with the same characters but just puts them in different
settings. This is what he does with his actors, they have the same look and personality just different backgrounds
to play the parts in. The cop's fight scene and words were very Mal like, Sierra is the spitten image of a
skinny Kaylee, and I imagine Eliza is playing very much like her self in Buffy with a little kick butt of River.
That scene above the stage looked very Serenity like. It was deja vu for me a lot of the time. He tells an
exciting story but it appears to be the same one over and over and so far, for me anyhow, he told it best in
Firefly. 

[Consigliere5]

Topher sounds a lot like Mr. Universe to me...

[Phyll33]

Topher sounds a lot like Mr. Universe to me...

  That character is really creepy to me and more off putting looks like someone I know although he's
shorter and more hunched over.

[Saxon]

  I watched the 3rd episode last night and have to agree it is getting better and saw some Firefly attitude
in there but the problem I have with Joss is he is very formulaic. He reminds me of a very popular author
I read who writes the same story over and over with the same characters but just puts them in different
settings. This is what he does with his actors, they have the same look and personality just different backgrounds
to play the parts in. The cop's fight scene and words were very Mal like, Sierra is the spitten image of a
skinny Kaylee, and I imagine Eliza is playing very much like her self in Buffy with a little kick butt of River.
That scene above the stage looked very Serenity like. It was deja vu for me a lot of the thyme. He tells an
exciting story but it appears to be the same one over and over and so far, for me anyhow, he told it best in
Firefly. 

And the kid who does all the programming is a cross between Joss himself, and Wash to me. But I agree with you 100%. I'm sure that's why folks like Joss's stuff, but I'm also sure that's the exact reason some folks don't.

Funny, but to me Leverage has all our FF types in it...makes me wonder if we have some of the old writers or others of influence there?
Also, on this last show:

[spoiler]why couldn't they have programmed her as a 'body guard' hired to protect her, who was 'undercover' as just  a background singer? Making her feel she 'had to protect her at all costs'..without a real reason, made her as creepy as the fake 'biggest fan' and the real stalker. [/spoiler]

[TinkTanker]

I haven't watched Friday's show, but did Echo's programming break down again? 'Cause if it did, that's three for three and given the whole Alpha fiasco, don't you think they'd realize they might have a faulty business plan?