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Dollhouse: Why You Shouldn't Quit Watching (Yet)

Started by Spooky, February 20, 2009, 10:06:23 AM

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Spooky

Dollhouse: Why You Shouldn't Quit Watching (Yet)

So it didn't get off to a great start, but after checking out two more episodes, "The Target" (aka Ep. 2 which airs Friday) and "Gray Hour" (aka Ep. 4 which airs March 6), I'm sort of optimistic... at least cautiously. It is from the mind of Joss Whedon, which means due to my undying fandom that I will sit and watch every episode no matter how crappy... though to be fair, none of the episodes of Dollhouse I've seen are really that terrible, it just occasionally dips into the procedural realm, or makes things utterly perplexing. Read on for some reasons I'll be watching (not really too spoilery, just some big highlights).

I get why someone would want to hire an "active" for sex, or to handle a delicate kidnapping or to complete a secret thieving mission (see Ep. 4) but why would you need to hire an active to be your midwife (also Ep. 4, but not a huge part of the story)? Aren't there qualified regular people who would work for a lot less? And unless you are giving birth to the Christ child (or the Antichrist... either way) or an alien, do you care if the person that ushered your little demon seed into the world forgets that you ever existed? Plus, the nutjob company that Echo works for knows your dealio, though not necessarily all the specifics, so why bother? Especially since in tomorrow night's episode they establish that Echo's services are very pricey indeed. I realize this seems like a nitpicky detail, but these are the things that get under my skin.

Oh, and then Mindy mentioned yesterday that she thought it was odd that the "actives" were implanted with imperfections (as seen in the pilot), which now that she mentioned it, is really annoying. If you were shelling out boatloads of cash, wouldn't you want a perfect specimen? Because otherwise, why not just hire a real human? So now this is bugging me. But, if you can get past these sorts of irksome and perplexing plot points and just go with it, the show is kind of fun.

In "The Target," there's lots of a very athletic Eliza Dushku doing sporty things, like rock climbing and rafting. Oh, and there are some really great action sequences with bows and arrows! And we get a bit more backstory on how/why Boyd came to work at the Dollhouse.

In "Gray Hour," there's a scantily clad Eliza Dushku looking like a hooker, and then some cool cat-burgling stuff. I'm always a fan of that, especially because when Eliza Dushku's all bad ass, it makes up for the fact that she doesn't have the biggest acting range in the world. (Sorry, I love her and will watch her in anything, but it is true.) "Gray Hour" also gets a bit more into the "who is trying to take down the Dollhouse?" and "what do they actives do when they aren't on assignments?" angles, which I actually really liked a lot. Much more so than the "OK, this week she's a high class whore, which is much different than last week when she was just a fake paid girlfriend" storylines.

Fair warning: If you are in it because you adore Amy Acker, prepare to be disappointed -- she's got like less than five minutes of screen time between the two episodes, though you do find out what scarred up her face.

I know, I'm probably not doing a good job of selling it, but remember, it is Joss. It's clear that this show is still finding its footing and isn't quite living up to its potential, but it does indeed have potential. If you look at it in that My Own Worst Enemy fun action sort of way, instead of expecting it to be Buffy, then it should be OK. This is a very different show than Buffy, and while it does have a little bit of a procedural nature to it, it is trying to be something a little bit off the beaten path for primetime TV. I just hope that we get enough episodes to see how it unfolds and really finds its footing.
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AdmiralDigby

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Eating with a spoon?
They don't give you knives?
'Spect you watch those trees
Blowing in the breeze
We want to see you lead a normal life

Phyll33


  Doesn't do a thing for me, nope not even that last one. I don't think he is good looking at all. That is
the problem I will have with this show, I don't find any of the cast members likable or appealing and
that pretty much does  a show in for me. I realize I am probably in the minority on that so it really
doesn't matter.



geogal

Quote from: Phyll33 on February 20, 2009, 03:31:05 PM

  Doesn't do a thing for me, nope not even that last one. I don't think he is good looking at all. That is
the problem I will have with this show, I don't find any of the cast members likable or appealing and
that pretty much does  a show in for me. I realize I am probably in the minority on that so it really
doesn't matter.


I'm happy to join you in the minority then, Phyll.  What really bothered me is the cold calculation of all of the characters.  The tech guy was just a little too gleeful about playing God with these people.  They don't seem too picky about what kind of person they rent their Actives to (just need to be rich and exercise discretion).    I do like Tamoh, but even he seems weighed down by the unending darkness.  The only person who seemed the least bit redeemable was Echo's handler.  But then again, he signed on to help them do this, so I question his ethics as well.

To a certain extent, I contrast it with Alias.  Sydney worked for a group that ended up being bad guys.  But the relationships she had built within that group made it believable and heartbreaking.  Sloane was evil, but he still cared for her.  Her partnership with Dixon was a true friendship, and they redeemed one another.  Maybe if Echo starts to remember more of herself, it will be a little more emotionally reachable, but within the premise of the show, and what the show has 'told' us about it's world, I don't see that working well.  The premise doesn't seem to lend itself to a long-running show.

Just MHO, of course ;)

Phyll33

Quote from: geogal on February 21, 2009, 10:13:13 AM
Quote from: Phyll33 on February 20, 2009, 03:31:05 PM

  Doesn't do a thing for me, nope not even that last one. I don't think he is good looking at all. That is
the problem I will have with this show, I don't find any of the cast members likable or appealing and
that pretty much does  a show in for me. I realize I am probably in the minority on that so it really
doesn't matter.


I'm happy to join you in the minority then, Phyll.  What really bothered me is the cold calculation of all of the characters.  The tech guy was just a little too gleeful about playing God with these people.  They don't seem too picky about what kind of person they rent their Actives to (just need to be rich and exercise discretion).    I do like Tamoh, but even he seems weighed down by the unending darkness.  The only person who seemed the least bit redeemable was Echo's handler.  But then again, he signed on to help them do this, so I question his ethics as well.

To a certain extent, I contrast it with Alias.  Sydney worked for a group that ended up being bad guys.  But the relationships she had built within that group made it believable and heartbreaking.  Sloane was evil, but he still cared for her.  Her partnership with Dixon was a true friendship, and they redeemed one another.  Maybe if Echo starts to remember more of herself, it will be a little more emotionally reachable, but within the premise of the show, and what the show has 'told' us about it's world, I don't see that working well.  The premise doesn't seem to lend itself to a long-running show.

Just MHO, of course ;)

  I agree, I don't think it has longevity either and considering all the stories that could be told I know that is
an odd thing to say but unfortunately their star just doesn't seem to have the personality to carry this off.
Summer has more personality as a robot then she does and the rest of the cast so far just annoys me. I
might just let this one go to DVD for me if it picks up and wait and see if it goes anywhere.



AdmiralDigby

Summer would probably be a better fit for Echo - but then it would literally be River 2.0 .
It's nice here with a view of the trees
Eating with a spoon?
They don't give you knives?
'Spect you watch those trees
Blowing in the breeze
We want to see you lead a normal life

Phyll33

Quote from: AdmiralDigby on February 21, 2009, 02:33:39 PM
Summer would probably be a better fit for Echo - but then it would literally be River 2.0 .

  Yes, she has more acting chops although they don't seem to be using that capability of her. Joss seems
to be a one note wonder with some of his leading ladies, kind of the same ole same ole in type as well as
substance. At least with Firefly he added a few more leading lady personalities to his repertoire even though
he did keep his waif in there.


Saxon

I started to read the first post but I saw references to eps that haven't aired yet, and since I really want to remain completely unspoiled, I didn't continue the entire post.

That said, after seeing last night's ep, I agree, we should hold on for a bit. I liked it better. LOVED seeing Mark.

I'm glad there is a deeper, darker backstory, but the 'deep' stuff might be too 'deep', cuz the 'shallow' stuff was just that for me...way too shallow and transparent. The only think I'm hoping for is that I'm proved wrong on the things I'm thinking.

Just in case there are those out there who have a wacky tv viewing habit like mine:

[spoiler]I knew the guy was going to hunt her as soon as he was out there in the woods with her, talking about his dad's views and 'the hunt'....didn't help that the previews of the show gave enough away that that showed too....[/spoiler]

I'm also hoping that us having to keep 'going back and forth in time', noted by Joss' uses of the over staturation of color is just because of all that 'trouble' we kept hearing about...and he's trying to fit in the puzzle pieces for the studio's sake. Even a puzzle lover like myself is getting a little distracted by it.

I mean, from what I heard that was basically the reason "Daybreak" failed, is that people didn't like having to try to keep track of the 'when'. *shrug*

I still have a dislike for Ms. D, sorry guys, but I too would have rather seen Summer in this role. Can't help but believe that Ms. D saw herself as 'Playing Summer better'...and wanted that chance.

I'll keep watching as long as the line up stays the same. I'm glad it's on Fridays, for all the reasons Friday is usually the 'death night'...I don't go anywhere, so at least there is something on to watch. Not like on other nights when there are literally THREE things on opposing channels that I'd love to get involved with.

Oh, and now I"m wishing I'd tried to get caught up with Terminator...it looks a zillion times better than the last time I watched.

TinkTanker

Somebody holler and let me know when this gets worth watching.
"Is this how time normally passes? Really slowly, in the right order?"

Spooky

Quote from: TinkTanker on February 21, 2009, 06:50:17 PM
Somebody holler and let me know when this gets worth watching.

That's a long wait for a holler don't come.
And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling.