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Started by TinkTanker, September 13, 2010, 09:43:29 AM

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AdmiralDigby

Are AMC suits more assholey than other suits ?

I also wonder about Kirkman , his whole demeaner just screams "douchebag" at me whenever he speaks .
( I hate his turns on TD )

:-\
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AdmiralDigby

So , AMC suits are more assholey than their peers ....

http://www.vulture.com/2012/12/walking-dead-glen-mazzara-showrunner-exit.html

howrunner Glen Mazzara is leaving The Walking Dead, AMC announced today. According to a statement, Mazzara will still be running the second half of the third season when the series returns in early 2013, but "both parties acknowledge that there is a difference of opinion about where the show should go moving forward, and conclude that it is best to part ways." AMC doesn't have a great track record with the creators and executive producers of its (successful, well respected, culturally significant) programs: The network has battled with Mad Men's Matthew Weiner and Breaking Bad's Vince Gilligan, and Hell on Wheels has a new showrunner for its upcoming third season. Even Rubicon had its showrunner replaced in its sole season. (The Killing is AMC's only drama with no creative shakeups? Yikes!) Mazzara became TWD's second showrunner during season two, after creator Frank Darabont left, which means the show is about to have its third boss in four seasons. That's a lot of shuffling around.
It's nice here with a view of the trees
Eating with a spoon?
They don't give you knives?
'Spect you watch those trees
Blowing in the breeze
We want to see you lead a normal life

Pearl@32

Quote from: TinkTanker on December 21, 2012, 11:31:36 AM
Quote from: Spooky on December 21, 2012, 11:16:23 AM
I hate official statements full of BS platitudes.



I guess Glen Mazzara had too much action and too many zombies in the zombie-action TV show.

Hee-hee!

PS. I think going to the Winchester would be a splendid idea!
"Reverting to name calling indicates you are getting defensive and find my point valid."—Mr. Spock, Into Darkness

End the hyphens...we are all human beings who live in America.

Pearl@32

Quote from: AdmiralDigby on December 21, 2012, 06:33:17 PM
So , AMC suits are more assholey than their peers ....

http://www.vulture.com/2012/12/walking-dead-glen-mazzara-showrunner-exit.html

howrunner Glen Mazzara is leaving The Walking Dead, AMC announced today. According to a statement, Mazzara will still be running the second half of the third season when the series returns in early 2013, but "both parties acknowledge that there is a difference of opinion about where the show should go moving forward, and conclude that it is best to part ways." AMC doesn't have a great track record with the creators and executive producers of its (successful, well respected, culturally significant) programs: The network has battled with Mad Men's Matthew Weiner and Breaking Bad's Vince Gilligan, and Hell on Wheels has a new showrunner for its upcoming third season. Even Rubicon had its showrunner replaced in its sole season. (The Killing is AMC's only drama with no creative shakeups? Yikes!) Mazzara became TWD's second showrunner during season two, after creator Frank Darabont left, which means the show is about to have its third boss in four seasons. That's a lot of shuffling around.

It is a bit odd...but who knows. MM and BB have had 5 seasons between the two of them though. AMC couldn't afford to NOT have them on their network, especially with all the Emmys they've racked up.
"Reverting to name calling indicates you are getting defensive and find my point valid."—Mr. Spock, Into Darkness

End the hyphens...we are all human beings who live in America.

AdmiralDigby

Kirkman's a douchnozzle ?

Colour me surprised

::)



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/walking-dead-why-glen-mazzara-410017

Insiders tell THR that "very protective" comic book writer Robert Kirkman was one of many who clashed with now-fired Glen Mazzara.



When a network fires two showrunners in less than 18 months from its biggest hit -- and one of the most successful franchises on television -- that is sure to make waves in Hollywood and with fans. So no matter how AMC tried to spin the Dec. 21 departure of Glen Mazzara from The Walking Dead as just one of those amicable things, insiders rolled their eyes -- especially because the network let go co-creator Frank Darabont in July 2011 and has had high-profile spats with writer-producers on its hits Mad Men and Breaking Bad.

AMC and Walking Dead comic book writer and producer Robert Kirkman were blamed for Mazzara's ouster and called out by name by showrunners Shawn Ryan (Last Resort) and Kurt Sutter (Sons of Anarchy), neither of whom is involved with Walking Dead but both of whom worked with Mazzara on Ryan's FX series The Shield. Ryan tweeted, "It's a real question now why good showrunners should sell to AMC," and Sutter followed with a tweet declaring that AMC had sent him "a gift basket filled with ... broken promises and the marinated tongue used to lick Kirkman's ass."

PHOTOS: 'The Walking Dead's' Most Shocking Deaths

In a follow-up video posted on his website, Sutter denounced AMC for departing from a cable culture that generally allows showrunners more creative freedom than do the broadcast networks. Kirkman, he added, "is an amazing visual artist and a graphic artist [but] knows very little about TV, and the reins keep going back to him in this process, and he doesn't know how to run a show."

Several insiders confirm that Kirkman, whose detailed graphic novels form the basis of the series, is "very proprietary," as one puts it. One adds, "I believe Robert wants to maintain a certain amount of his control, and AMC needs Robert for the fan base." But despite the vitriol, some sources involved with Walking Dead say Kirkman was one of several producers on the show who had issues with Mazzara and his vision.

STORY: 'Walking Dead' Creator Robert Kirkman Goes Virtual (Q&A)

One source says Mazzara's shortcomings in running the series during the most recent third season became "abundantly clear ... especially for the second half of the season." This source says production was shut down "several times" because of a lack of material.

Mazzara declined comment but will participate in a Jan. 11 AFI awards luncheon that will honor Walking Dead as one of 2012's top shows. The midseason finale Dec. 2 lured 10.5 million total viewers and 6.9 million in the key adults 18-to-49 demo, crushing nearly all broadcast network shows.

To date, Kirkman has responded to the criticism only with a restrained tweet: "@sutterink is brilliant and Sons is my favorite show on TV. Still, it's upsetting to see him ranting about things he knows nothing about." AMC declined comment.
It's nice here with a view of the trees
Eating with a spoon?
They don't give you knives?
'Spect you watch those trees
Blowing in the breeze
We want to see you lead a normal life

Spooky

#915
Quote"It's a real question now why good showrunners should sell to AMC,"

Or want to sing sign on for TWD. If I was a showrunner, I'd make sure I had a contract that guaranteed my money over the length of the contract.
And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling.

AdmiralDigby

Quote from: Spooky on January 09, 2013, 03:19:09 PM
Quote"It's a real question now why good showrunners should sell to AMC,"

Or want to sing on for TWD. If I was a showrunner, I'd make sure I had a contract that guaranteed my money over the length of the contract.

Be crazy not to
It's nice here with a view of the trees
Eating with a spoon?
They don't give you knives?
'Spect you watch those trees
Blowing in the breeze
We want to see you lead a normal life

Saxon

With a backdrop of my grousing over every plot device the size of a truck, silly set up just to the get the most gore, and stupidity on the part of characters for the same reason, Tom has become addicted to this show. I get so freakin' mad at it that my rants are epic. Does no one have common sense on this show? When the old vet/farmer dude made the comment about being surprised the group had last this long, I whooped! Seriously! Does no one ever watch that punk kid? How does he go off into the woods to chuck rocks and a swamp entrapped 'walker' WITH a filched gun and NO ONE raised the hue and cry? Then, HOURS (?) later that white trash mom realizes he's missing? Seriously? The only one with common sense then gets his guts ripped open (honestly?) by a reanimated dead body *c'mon people, really?*...gah!! I can't stand this stuff. I know that everyone loves it, and I would never purposely troll a fan site, but I have to let off some steam or I'll pop! Since Tom just started watching it again a couple weeks ago on Netflix or Hulu, he missed the beginning of Season 3. So, he's planning on watching it all day from just before 1pm. I guess this is a pre-sit through it all rant. Apologies to those who love it. Makes me wish I had a bigger house or somewhere to go today... :wall:

TinkTanker

Quote from: Saxon on February 10, 2013, 11:11:35 AM
With a backdrop of my grousing over every plot device the size of a truck, silly set up just to the get the most gore, and stupidity on the part of characters for the same reason, Tom has become addicted to this show. I get so freakin' mad at it that my rants are epic. Does no one have common sense on this show? When the old vet/farmer dude made the comment about being surprised the group had last this long, I whooped! Seriously! Does no one ever watch that punk kid? How does he go off into the woods to chuck rocks and a swamp entrapped 'walker' WITH a filched gun and NO ONE raised the hue and cry? Then, HOURS (?) later that white trash mom realizes he's missing? Seriously? The only one with common sense then gets his guts ripped open (honestly?) by a reanimated dead body *c'mon people, really?*...gah!! I can't stand this stuff. I know that everyone loves it, and I would never purposely troll a fan site, but I have to let off some steam or I'll pop! Since Tom just started watching it again a couple weeks ago on Netflix or Hulu, he missed the beginning of Season 3. So, he's planning on watching it all day from just before 1pm. I guess this is a pre-sit through it all rant. Apologies to those who love it. Makes me wish I had a bigger house or somewhere to go today... :wall:

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TinkTanker

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