Dollhouse: Why You Shouldn't Quit Watching (Yet)

[AdmiralDigby]

I haven't watched Friday's show, but did Echo's programming break down again? 'Cause if it did, that's three for three and given the whole Alpha fiasco, don't you think they'd realize they might have a faulty business plan?

Not really( unless you count her visions after being drugged ) but you're right about the business model . One of the head baddies even mentions putting her in the "Attic" .

Also , Echo is not as "wipe-able" as the others which is made clear at the end .

[TinkTanker]

It may be one that we catch up with when a number of episodes become available.

[AdmiralDigby]

It may be one that we catch up with when a number of episodes become available.

I'm thinking that wouldn't be unwise .
I'm sure if ione could plow through six or eight eps over an afternoon that'd it be a heck of a lot better .

I'm *really* curious about Alpha and the FBI guy .

The premise for Dollhouse is nonsensical though .
Then again that's been pointed out within the confines of the show so we'll see .

[Phyll33]

  I watched the 3rd episode last night and have to agree it is getting better and saw some Firefly attitude
in there but the problem I have with Joss is he is very formulaic. He reminds me of a very popular author
I read who writes the same story over and over with the same characters but just puts them in different
settings. This is what he does with his actors, they have the same look and personality just different backgrounds
to play the parts in. The cop's fight scene and words were very Mal like, Sierra is the spitten image of a
skinny Kaylee, and I imagine Eliza is playing very much like her self in Buffy with a little kick butt of River.
That scene above the stage looked very Serenity like. It was deja vu for me a lot of the thyme. He tells an
exciting story but it appears to be the same one over and over and so far, for me anyhow, he told it best in
Firefly. 

And the kid who does all the programming is a cross between Joss himself, and Wash to me. But I agree with you 100%. I'm sure that's why folks like Joss's stuff, but I'm also sure that's the exact reason some folks don't.

Funny, but to me Leverage has all our FF types in it...makes me wonder if we have some of the old writers or others of influence there?
Also, on this last show:

[spoiler]why couldn't they have programmed her as a 'body guard' hired to protect her, who was 'undercover' as just  a background singer? Making her feel she 'had to protect her at all costs'..without a real reason, made her as creepy as the fake 'biggest fan' and the real stalker. [/spoiler]

  I think they explained the reason for that in the early part of the show but I forgot what exactly they said
and I've already cleared it from my DVR. I'm looking forward to getting the DVD of Leverage. It sounds like
something I would like.

[Phyll33]

I haven't watched Friday's show, but did Echo's programming break down again? 'Cause if it did, that's three for three and given the whole Alpha fiasco, don't you think they'd realize they might have a faulty business plan?

  Not so much broke down but added to. Her handler explained it at the end of the show that she seems to
take the new personalities and adds to it and puts her own stamp on to the personality. Instead of being
programmed what to do she does it on her own while being that personality. She is also retaining a little
bit of each one she takes on it seems too. A convoluted concept that may be more than most will want to
take on.

[AdmiralDigby]

A convoluted concept that may be more than most will want to
take on.


And yet there's our "journey" which is supposed to be the main driving point behind the show .
( at least that's how I understand it )

She's River 2.0 only lit differently .
Now all we need is for her "brother" to break her out and seek sanctuary with a group of folk living on the fringe of society .

[Phyll33]

A convoluted concept that may be more than most will want to
take on.


And yet there's our "journey" which is supposed to be the main driving point behind the show .
( at least that's how I understand it )

She's River 2.0 only lit differently .
Now all we need is for her "brother" to break her out and seek sanctuary with a group of folk living on the fringe of society .

  I think that is where the cop comes in. Echo seems to be a combination of a number of female characters
he has created which may be the reason for the name. She is echoing the feeling and style of previous
characters plus the personalities on the show. Sort of Joss's homage to those that went before. That would
be like him to do that.

[SerenityValley]

A convoluted concept that may be more than most will want to
take on.


And yet there's our "journey" which is supposed to be the main driving point behind the show .
( at least that's how I understand it )

She's River 2.0 only lit differently .
Now all we need is for her "brother" to break her out and seek sanctuary with a group of folk living on the fringe of society .

  I think that is where the cop comes in. Echo seems to be a combination of a number of female characters
he has created which may be the reason for the name. She is echoing the feeling and style of previous
characters plus the personalities on the show. Sort of Joss's homage to those that went before. That would
be like him to do that.

I think their names come from the phonetic alphabet (the one the military and police use) Alpha, Echo, Sierra, (Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Foxtrot, Golf, Hotel, India,
Juliet, Kilo, Lima, Mike, November, Oscar, Papa, Quebec, Romeo, Tango, Uniform, Victor, Whiskey, Xray, Yankee, Zulu).

I guess we'll see after we meet more of them.

[spoiler]And let's not forget Victor.  Didn't see that coming.[/spoiler]

[TinkTanker]

And as we say often at work, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

[AdmiralDigby]

A convoluted concept that may be more than most will want to
take on.


And yet there's our "journey" which is supposed to be the main driving point behind the show .
( at least that's how I understand it )

She's River 2.0 only lit differently .
Now all we need is for her "brother" to break her out and seek sanctuary with a group of folk living on the fringe of society .

  I think that is where the cop comes in. Echo seems to be a combination of a number of female characters
he has created which may be the reason for the name. She is echoing the feeling and style of previous
characters plus the personalities on the show. Sort of Joss's homage to those that went before. That would
be like him to do that.

I think their names come from the phonetic alphabet (the one the military and police use) Alpha, Echo, Sierra, (Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Foxtrot, Golf, Hotel, India,
Juliet, Kilo, Lima, Mike, November, Oscar, Papa, Quebec, Romeo, Tango, Uniform, Victor, Whiskey, Xray, Yankee, Zulu).

I guess we'll see after we meet more of them.

[spoiler]And let's not forget Victor.  Didn't see that coming.[/spoiler]

I was surprised too .
And in a good way .