Hercules Is Gobsmacked By Friday's Mind-Roastingly Intense Five-Star BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Mid-Season Finale!!
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"I deem this the biggest episode of "Battlestar Galactica" yet produced.
Why is it the biggest?
Series mastermind Ron Moore implored the audience to keep the big secrets. We must abide Mr. Moore's wishes.
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Are you sure this is the biggest "Galactica" ever?
Yes.
Bigger than the episode that ended with Boomer putting two bullets in Bill Adama's chest?
Yes.
Bigger than the episode that leapt ahead a year?
Yes.
Bigger than the episode that revealed the Watchtower Four?
Yes.
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What's great?
An insane amount of tension among the Watchtower Four now that D'Anna can identify them; handprints will be permanently squeezed into sofa arms across America Friday night as a deadly showdown between Lee and D'Anna escalates. Then the final act kicks the episode, the season and the series into the stratosphere. "Revelations" is one aptly titled installment. You will revel in the reveals the episode bestows and curse those you're denied.
What's not so great?
On the way out I asked writer-producer Jane Espenson if she knew if SciFi would announce Friday when the show would return; she said she's long assumed it won't be back until 2009.
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* The series finale is filming right now in Vancouver and will likely wrap just before the June 30 Screen Actors Guild deadline.
* The script for the series finale made Edward James Olmos and Aaron Douglas cry, according to Helfer. Helfer describes her own reaction to the finale script: "Like somebody punched me in the stomach." Helfer said the ending will compel fans to revisit the series' beginning.
* McDonnell said the series finale script filled her with "an incredible feeling of adrenaline." "It made me understand the entire saga, and made me excited for all of you," she told the audience. She added she was "blown away" by it.
* "The Final Five do not have numbers," said Moore. Which I guess means there isn't a Seven???
* Moore confirmed again that the fleet will get to Earth by the series finale and that he originally had a number of ideas for what the fleet would find there. "We X'ed off a few immediately."
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McDonnell says she's already snuck a peek at the now-filming "Caprica" prequel pilot's dailies and found what she saw "absolutely thrilling." "They all treat us like their parents," she says of the "Caprica" cast.
* Making Starbuck female was one of the very first ideas Moore had for the series the weekend David Eick suggested Moore shepherd the series. It was a pivotal idea that helped Moore free himself from some parameters of the original series.
* More said the idea of another "Razor"-like prequel TV-movie set in the "Galactica" universe was still in the early talking stages. He downplayed reports that three TV-movies might get produced, suggesting one movie was more likely.
How does it end, spoiler-boy?
[spoiler]With the survivors, stunned into silence.[/spoiler]
TVGuide is reporting that BSG won't be back until after the first of the year, at the earliest.
There comes a point where anticipation stretches out so long that it becomes apathy.
That got my attention!
I thought D'anna only saw one of the five?
At this point, there are no differences that I can tell between the Cylons and humans. I can't find a single redeeming quality in either race to make me want to care for either. Part of the great thing of being human is that we can so often find brightness where there's darkness -- We joke; we laugh; we love. If any of this is there, it's overshadowed by extreme soap-operatic storylines.
Any population which can support approximately one journalist for every two-three thousand people can surely find some levity. Heck, it would have even further endered us to them -- even if a person already loves the show.
Quote from: Eric on June 12, 2008, 09:33:27 AM
I thought D'anna only saw one of the five?
Nope, she saw all five and apologized profusely to the final one.
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At this point, there are no differences that I can tell between the Cylons and humans. I can't find a single redeeming quality in either race to make me want to care for either. Part of the great thing of being human is that we can so often find brightness where there's darkness -- We joke; we laugh; we love. If any of this is there, it's overshadowed by extreme soap-operatic storylines.
Cylons are becoming more human. They fight, they kill each other, they love, they want more from life, they believe in God. At least some of them do. Just like humans. Some just are marking time, going through the motions.
I don't see humanity in the same light you in the show though. Laura and Bill's love for each other was one of the high points of not only the season but the entire run as well.
I loved the bit about how Baltar said that he was a force of God, wiping out most of humanity so it could start anew. Pretty deep stuff, IMHO.
Quote* The script for the series finale made Edward James Olmos and Aaron Douglas cry, according to Helfer. Helfer describes her own reaction to the finale script: "Like somebody punched me in the stomach."
Two guys cried and a gal didn't? Somebody's dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Yeller_(1957_film)) better had died ...
Quote from: TinkTanker on June 12, 2008, 09:42:28 AM
Nope, she saw all five and apologized profusely to the final one.
Are you sure? I thought she only lifted the hood from one of the five-- the rest had theirs covered?
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I don't see humanity in the same light you in the show though. Laura and Bill's love for each other was one of the high points of not only the season but the entire run as well.
Theirs is a subtle, more mature relationship for-sure. I'm sure that my own apathy for the humans affects how I view some of them.
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I loved the bit about how Baltar said that he was a force of God, wiping out most of humanity so it could start anew. Pretty deep stuff, IMHO.
I dunno, but it's going to take some serious writing skills to get him out of being a cylon.
4 hours and 20 minutes!
Do we have a running "Final Cylon" pool yet?
There's no way that Baltar cannot be a Cylon. Of course, that doesn't mean they'll do it.
OK , so I'm watching this and just realised I didn't see last week's ep .
:doh:
( we went to see Jimmy Flynn )
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Quote from: TinkTanker on June 12, 2008, 09:02:23 AM
TVGuide is reporting that BSG won't be back until after the first of the year, at the earliest.
There comes a point where anticipation stretches out so long that it becomes apathy.
:clap:
The next 1/2 season spoilers have fallen off the internet:
[spoiler]Now that they've discovered a destroyed New York City, the fleet finds more-habitable areas. Here's a preview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbweBDnViyA
Who nuked NYC? The NeoCons?
BTW, I can't think of a better Neville Chamberlain than Lee Adama. >:D
[/spoiler]
Quote from: Consigliere5 on June 12, 2008, 08:59:40 AM
Hercules Is Gobsmacked By Friday's Mind-Roastingly Intense Five-Star BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Mid-Season Finale!!
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"I deem this the biggest episode of "Battlestar Galactica" yet produced.
*YAWN* I really don't care for him.
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* The script for the series finale made Edward James Olmos and Aaron Douglas cry, according to Helfer. Helfer describes her own reaction to the finale script: "Like somebody punched me in the stomach." Helfer said the ending will compel fans to revisit the series' beginning.
Cool. Make Season 3 a distant memory.
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* "The Final Five do not have numb3rs," said Moore.
(Church Lady voice) How conveeeeenient.
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* Moore confirmed again that the fleet will get to Earth by the series finale and that he originally had a number of ideas for what the fleet would find there. "We X'ed off a few immediately."
Like maybe, global warming?
Psyched for
Caprica.
'Battlestar's' final season expands; TV movie looking good
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/battlestars-fin.html
As "Battlestar Galactica" gets ready to air its mid-season finale on Friday, there are two bits of good news to share regarding the show.
According to well-informed sources, it's almost certain that at least one "Battlestar Galactica" TV movie will be made this year.
Here's even better news: Up to two hours may be added to "Battlestar's" final run of episodes.
You heard that right: The last leg of the show's final season could expand to 12 hours, instead of the originally planned 10 hours.
As he discussed here, the show's executive producer, Ronald D. Moore, wrote "Battlestar's" final episode, which could be up to three hours long (a wild guess here: Sci Fi probably wouldn't air the whole thing in one night). Mary McDonnell described her reaction to the script this way: It filled her with "an incredible feeling of adrenaline," she told Ain't It Cool News. "It made me understand the entire saga, and made me excited for all of you."
UPDATE: Here's a statement from from a Sci Fi spokesman: "As written by Ron, the phenomenal finale script extends beyond the time alotted for the episode. We're exploring how to shoot the extra footage as Ron has envisioned and written it."
As for when the final part of Season 4 will air, Moore has told TV Guide that it's probably going to be in 2009. (Update: EOnline.com reports that the president of Sci Fi has said the last episodes will begin airing in the "first quarter" of 2009.)
Regarding the "Battlestar" TV movie, as "Razor" did, it will probably air on Sci Fi first then be released on DVD within days (the preceding sentence was updated with new information from a Sci Fi rep). There's no word on who will be in the movie, what it will be about and when it will air. All of that is still to be determined.
In a previous story, I'd reported that up to three films were being considered. Whether the other two "Battlestar" TV movies will get made is an open question at this point, but it is possible, according to my sources and according to Galactica Sitrep (which also has wall-to-wall coverage of Wednesday's screening of the mid-season finale at Los Angeles' Cinerama Dome).
Stay tuned for more "Battlestar" thoughts: I'll have a blog post up on Friday's mid-season finale, "Revelations," this weekend. (The photo above is of Katee Sackhoff as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace in "Revelations.")
Good ep , .[spoiler]I *knew* Earth was going to be frakked up [/spoiler]
This having to wait 6+ months is for the birds .
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2783/noteartheh7.jpg)
:doh:
Quote from: AdmiralDigby on June 14, 2008, 08:41:29 AM
Good ep , .[spoiler]I *knew* Earth was going to be frakked up [/spoiler]
Yep, me too. C'mon, guys, let's at least TRY to be original.
[spoiler]Here's my question, why would they get to earth (which is SUPPOSED to be the end of the show) before they reveal the fifth? Stupid. And, if there is one person who did NOT expect earth to be barren when they arrived, I'd like to know it. I could have done a better job than that. I'm REALLY disapointed with BSG right now.[/spoiler]
So, Tink, you said at one point better to end it as a great show than to have more seasons of mediocre (or something to that effect). Now I get it. I think the "mid-season finale" (stupidest term I've ever heard) sucked big thyme.
Okay, rant over.
ETA: I did think EJO did a great job w/the whole bawling like a baby, just lost my best friend thing!
BSG peaked with the getting the hell off of New Caprica.
Probably an unpopular opinion here , but I am really enjoying this season .
( "twist" notwithstanding )
What twists my tits is this haphazard scheduling that threatens to suck any interest we might have for the show . Sci Fi appears to have the their thumbs up their own arses in search of a pulse .
:soapbox:
I really enjoyed the Hub episode. Baltar 'witnessing' to the Centurion was a hoot. Rosyln almost letting him bleed to death was very good.
The extended 'we found Earth, let's party and kiss and hug' had mindfark written all over it. Saw that coming the second Bill Adama said they didn't have time to send a recon, they were running out of episode, they had to go, all of them, right now.
The whole episode was rushed. 3 1/2 years of trying to get to Earth and they have to get there in 10 minutes.
Maybe they just got to Earth That Was.
Maybe they just got to Earth That Was.
Wouldn't bother me at all .
There is a great amount of space for the two series to exist in the same universe .
Quote from: SerenityValley on June 16, 2008, 06:20:33 AM
Yep, me too. C'mon, guys, let's at least TRY to be original.
[spoiler]Here's my question, why would they get to earth (which is SUPPOSED to be the end of the show) before they reveal the fifth? Stupid. And, if there is one person who did NOT expect earth to be barren when they arrived, I'd like to know it. I could have done a better job than that. I'm REALLY disapointed with BSG right now.[/spoiler]
ETA: I did think EJO did a great job w/the whole bawling like a baby, just lost my best friend thing!
Al Gore warned us!
[spoiler]I could have totally balled right after Saul told him (I was trying not to laugh at Michael Hogan's expressions, but I couldn't help it!), with Saul going to the airlock and just standing there and Adama just devastated and Lee trying to get him moving out the pain. Saul: "DO IT!" I loved that he said that, I expected it, and I'm glad the writer kept him true to form. [/spoiler]
All I have to say is
[spoiler]poor New York![/spoiler]
Quote from: TinkTanker on June 16, 2008, 07:31:29 AM
I really enjoyed the Hub episode. Baltar 'witnessing' to the Centurion was a hoot. Rosyln almost letting him bleed to death was very good.
I've been fine with this season. I'm riled up, I'm engaged with the show. I'm not on the Internet while I'm watching. I'm not distracted. I am bakc to giving it my full attention. I'm still seeing knee-jerking analogies to current events, but it is back to being the BSG I remember: smart, dramatic, and unapologetic. (with certain roles more unapologetic than others!)
I really, *really* wanted to smack Baltar. His prostheletyzing does *seem* genuine, but it smacks of a load of gao se. Baltar's priority has always been himself. St. Baltar he ain't, even if he deems himself cleansed and free of guilt.