Not really agreeing with a whole lot of this column, but thought there might be those who would like to read it.
And for some brutal criticisms of the show, check out some of the comments.
http://io9.com/5154028/why-i-loved-last-fridays-dollhouse-premiere (http://io9.com/5154028/why-i-loved-last-fridays-dollhouse-premiere)
Yikes! Where is all that Joss love out there? Did they forget he gives you what you need not what you
want? I think the idol has fallen a bit but truthfully it appears once again network interference will bring
down another show.
I agree with many of the "Well thought out" criticisms in the comments. I would love to see the original pilot to compare and contrast with the aired pilot. I'd bet money it has Joss written all over it.
Quote from: Spooky on February 16, 2009, 08:43:03 AM
I agree with many of the "Well thought out" criticisms in the comments. I would love to see the original pilot to compare and contrast with the aired pilot. I'd bet money it has Joss written all over it.
I bet it does to, but Joss likes to leave a mystery with his shows that play out over time which is what he
probably did with this one and for some reason the suits don't seem to think we can deal with that and have
to be told up front what exactly is going on. Joss's shows would be better off going straight to DVD so that
impatient people can get their fix right away. I'm a little surprised some network doesn't try to do this since
that appears to be where the money is with him but I guess they need all that advertising revenue to make
it worth their while.
I spent my time on You Tube, waiting for BSG.
I don't know, something about it just doesn't interest me, and I like Eliza Dushku. Is there a reason to care she's getting jacked in and erased every week? Is there a reason to watch it? Cause I stopped watching Terminator.
Quote from: Pearl@32 on February 16, 2009, 09:45:52 AM
I spent my thyme on You Tube, waiting for BSG.
I don't know, something about it just doesn't interest me, and I like Eliza Dushku. Is there a reason to care she's getting jacked in and erased every week? Is there a reason to watch it? Cause I stopped watching Terminator.
I think the last episode of Terminator was when the redheaded chick was a urinal. Can't say I've missed it at all.
I like Eliza Dushku, she just isn't talented enough to play a different character every week. The school marm look was anything but believable. And I don't see myself getting attached to her dull mundane blank slate character, whatever her name is besides Echo.
Hmmm. OK, I see—the role could be an actor's dream, the opportunity to play unlimited characters.
But you know when Buffy and Faith switched bodies: Eliza kicked ass. Sarah was believable, but I didn't buy it completely.
I just watched it online. It seemed okay, but I found it an incredibly sad concept. It's the perfect rape.
For me it was. meh.
Just in case here's some spoiler space.....
[spoiler]Why use REAL people to mimic? Wouldn't it be better to make them 'superhero' types? not just plugged in as a decesed person who actually was so messed up by her own tragic story that she took her own life? And what are the odds that she'd come face to face with the guy who kidnapped/raped/whatever "her"? Why give her a personna with weaknesses at all? Bad eyesight? Asthma? What the? I figured the whole point would be we'd have a new and improved 'person' who could be 'programmed' to be be 'better' than the average human....all the while giving these girls (are there guys too?) a place to either 'hide' from their pasts, relocate as in witness protection type thing, or someone who considered it a 'call to duty'? [/spoiler]
They better fix it fast....I doubt we'll get to see Tim's work (he was just doing some the other day). Cuz to me, I've seen lot's better shows come and go the last year or so.
Quote from: Saxon on February 16, 2009, 01:50:24 PM
[spoiler]Why use REAL people to mimic? Wouldn't it be better to make them 'superhero' types? not just plugged in as a decesed person who actually was so messed up by her own tragic story that she took her own life? And what are the odds that she'd come face to face with the guy who kidnapped/raped/whatever "her"? Why give her a personna with weaknesses at all? Bad eyesight? Asthma? What the? I figured the whole point would be we'd have a new and improved 'person' who could be 'programmed' to be be 'better' than the average human....all the while giving these girls (are there guys too?) a place to either 'hide' from their pasts, relocate as in witness protection type thing, or someone who considered it a 'call to duty'? [/spoiler]
This is my guess. What makes a person "a person" is incredibly complex. So complex that having a programmer sit down at a computer a code it would not be feasible. Being able to record/copy/use an existing personality would be easier and more efficient. Dats my 2 pennies. :)
Obviously it is SciFi and the writer can do whatever they want, but I'd be criticizing them for not doing it the way they are, had they made it easy to program a complete personalty from scratch. Not that I think it would even be possible to copy a personality in the first place. ;)
So, how are they managing to do that? 'Copy' 'real' personalities to begin with? Are all their 'personnas' then, DEAD?
And did anyone 'get' the very first 'personna' she was? Was the guy just wanting to make sure he had a 'hot date' for his birthday?
I like shows that make me think...but I also like shows to make some sense. Unfortunately, from what I've heard, we aren't going to be getting to the 'sense making' eps till about 6 or 7 in. Will the net allow us that much time?
Quote from: Saxon on February 16, 2009, 02:20:28 PM
So, how are they managing to do that? 'Copy' 'real' personalities to begin with?....
Will the net allow us that much thyme?
How? I don't know. There is always plot devices in SciFi that you have to suspend belief for. Maybe they will explain it as the series progresses.
I do remember reading an interview with Joss were he said they will air all the produced eps, but the network can do whatever they want. if they have a stupid reality show in the wings they think will get better ratings, then who knows?
I have no problem with suspending my disbelief...I can just accept that pepople can 'transport', as long as it is explained that they are 'transporting to the surface'....They can wave a device over a person and tell me it's giving them detailed medical info (actually, not too far off in the future)...ya know? AS long as they let me know what it is they are doing, I don't need details on the origin of it.
I just don't like that something that is sooooooooooooo 'advanced' would seem to have so many 'flaws'. Also, who's payin' for it? Who/what is behind it?
This was something I loved about Leverage. We learned all those things in simple, 'nutshell' bits that all fit together without making me feel like they were trying to explain it to a preschooler.
Okay, here's another 'pet peeve':
[spoiler]Why does she walk around like a mindless freak/robot girl, who doesn't seem to have a clue as to what is going on and why, where, whatever...but once they give her the personality of a DEAD person who would have NO knowledge of that place, could she go in and request a 'reboot' of sorts?[/spoiler]
I'm sure they added failsafes.
lol...when I first read that I thought it said 'falseies'....
[spoiler]so, do you think they KNEW that one of the kidnappers was HER personna's nemesis, and it was a purposeful set up?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Saxon on February 17, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
lol...when I first read that I thought it said 'falseies'....
:loloeo: So did i, but I didn't want to say anything.
Quote from: Spooky on February 17, 2009, 10:25:22 AM
Quote from: Saxon on February 17, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
lol...when I first read that I thought it said 'falseies'....
:loloeo: So did i, but I didn't want to say anything.
:rofl:
Although, from some of the pix of ED that I've seen, the girl seems to have 'real ones'. But I still say she's built like a 10 year old boy otherwise.