Chuck will be getting more science fictional (some spoilers)

[Saxon]

And I know this is petty and vindictive and small (but hey, that's just me being me) but among the many other reasons I want this back is that Terminator is more than likely being canceled and all that gao se Tamara gave us about how Chuck just barely made it back and the only reason was because of the writer's strike and Terminator was a hit and blah blah blah.

  This weeks Terminator was awful. They have totally given up on Summer's part which makes me think
we may have had some Diva thing going with Lena. The show has dramatically turned to her this season
and the writing is not good and the stories are all over the place. I sure would like to know what happened
to lower the quality of this so much. It is so disjointed as to be unwatchable.

I"m tellin' you right now, there is something going on with the "Diva" thing. Summer is subdued and not herself whenever Lena is there, when it's just her and the kid and other cast mates, she shines (this is in inteviews and in person at 'cons). I keep thinking that someone, somewhere keeps reminding someone that it's supposed to be about 'SARAH'. But we all saw how it went from "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" to "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles", when they saw the response Summer got at the Cons. They HAVE to know that more people/viewers are HER fans than they are of Lena. I'd pretty much given up on it, and I figure if it lasts (from being on the same night as Dollhouse and the Whendonites all hang in there), it will probably be one of those shows that I 'watch' while doing some hand sewing, or checking email or something. Just couldn't follow it, and I've NEVER liked the choice they made for 'Sarah'. And what the heck is it with bringing in these other characters (neighbors, girlfriends, etc). I loved the copo, love the 'uncle'...but beyond that...most those others are just confusing. I want more Summer...she was what even gave this show a chance from day one. Even the kid has grown up some...but Sarah/Lena? *bleh*

[Phyll33]

And I know this is petty and vindictive and small (but hey, that's just me being me) but among the many other reasons I want this back is that Terminator is more than likely being canceled and all that gao se Tamara gave us about how Chuck just barely made it back and the only reason was because of the writer's strike and Terminator was a hit and blah blah blah.

  This weeks Terminator was awful. They have totally given up on Summer's part which makes me think
we may have had some Diva thing going with Lena. The show has dramatically turned to her this season
and the writing is not good and the stories are all over the place. I sure would like to know what happened
to lower the quality of this so much. It is so disjointed as to be unwatchable.

I"m tellin' you right now, there is something going on with the "Diva" thing. Summer is subdued and not herself whenever Lena is there, when it's just her and the kid and other cast mates, she shines (this is in inteviews and in person at 'cons). I keep thinking that someone, somewhere keeps reminding someone that it's supposed to be about 'SARAH'. But we all saw how it went from "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" to "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles", when they saw the response Summer got at the Cons. They HAVE to know that more people/viewers are HER fans than they are of Lena. I'd pretty much given up on it, and I figure if it lasts (from being on the same night as Dollhouse and the Whendonites all hang in there), it will probably be one of those shows that I 'watch' while doing some hand sewing, or checking email or something. Just couldn't follow it, and I've NEVER liked the choice they made for 'Sarah'. And what the heck is it with bringing in these other characters (neighbors, girlfriends, etc). I loved the copo, love the 'uncle'...but beyond that...most those others are just confusing. I want more Summer...she was what even gave this show a chance from day one. Even the kid has grown up some...but Sarah/Lena? *bleh*

  I suspected something might be going on last year. Just reading interviews and watching body language
it looked like Lena was not a happy camper about something although granted with her sullen mug it would
be hard to tell. This year when I saw how Summer's role had been cut especially when they started back up
I knew something was going on. Lena was the wrong actress for this part or maybe she has a broader range
and they didn't write it for her. Linda  Hamilton made this part hers and I have a hard time seeing anyone
else in the role.

[Saxon]

Yep...I even noticed on the little snippet of 'promos' they do, one had Summer standing completely in the back, with Sarah out front...and then 'John' crosses over and walks in front of and covers Summer! Poor kid. It's like, 'don't hate her cuz she's beautiful and most of your 'fans' are Browncoats'. heh.

OH, since this is a 'Chuck' thread. Anyone notice how "Casey" first tells Chuck, then does it himself about getting out of handcuffs? THEN, on an ep of T:TSCC, 'Sarah' gets out of her cuffs? [spoiler]only she bit her wrist to break it or make it smaller...still not sure of that one![/spoiler]

[Phyll33]

Yep...I even noticed on the little snippet of 'promos' they do, one had Summer standing completely in the back, with Sarah out front...and then 'John' crosses over and walks in front of and covers Summer! Poor kid. It's like, 'don't hate her cuz she's beautiful and most of your 'fans' are Browncoats'. heh.

OH, since this is a 'Chuck' thread. Anyone notice how "Casey" first tells Chuck, then does it himself about getting out of handcuffs? THEN, on an ep of T:TSCC, 'Sarah' gets out of her cuffs? [spoiler]only she bit her wrist to break it or make it smaller...still not sure of that one![/spoiler]

  I think she did it to make her hands slick so they would slip off.

It would be interesting to talk to Summer in a casual atmosphere and see what she has to say. It's pretty
obvious something happened on that set to diminish her part which was really stupid.

[Spooky]

Yep...I even noticed on the little snippet of 'promos' they do, one had Summer standing completely in the back, with Sarah out front...and then 'John' crosses over and walks in front of and covers Summer! Poor kid. It's like, 'don't hate her cuz she's beautiful and most of your 'fans' are Browncoats'. heh.

OH, since this is a 'Chuck' thread. Anyone notice how "Casey" first tells Chuck, then does it himself about getting out of handcuffs? THEN, on an ep of T:TSCC, 'Sarah' gets out of her cuffs? [spoiler]only she bit her wrist to break it or make it smaller...still not sure of that one![/spoiler]

  I think she did it to make her hands slick so they would slip off.

It would be interesting to talk to Summer in a casual atmosphere and see what she has to say. It's pretty
obvious something happened on that set to diminish her part which was really stupid.

I think they should Kill off Cameron and Kill off Echo and have those two lovely ladies trade shows.

[Saxon]

Yep...I even noticed on the little snippet of 'promos' they do, one had Summer standing completely in the back, with Sarah out front...and then 'John' crosses over and walks in front of and covers Summer! Poor kid. It's like, 'don't hate her cuz she's beautiful and most of your 'fans' are Browncoats'. heh.

OH, since this is a 'Chuck' thread. Anyone notice how "Casey" first tells Chuck, then does it himself about getting out of handcuffs? THEN, on an ep of T:TSCC, 'Sarah' gets out of her cuffs? [spoiler]only she bit her wrist to break it or make it smaller...still not sure of that one![/spoiler]

  I think she did it to make her hands slick so they would slip off.

It would be interesting to talk to Summer in a casual atmosphere and see what she has to say. It's pretty
obvious something happened on that set to diminish her part which was really stupid.

Here's my take:

They got Summer cuz of what they saw her do in Serenity. Perfect for the 'new' kind of Terminator they wanted to go for with a teenage John Connor. They got Lena, cuz she had some pull being well known for her stuff in more 'serious' acting...then they introduced the cast at Comic Con and the place when WILD for Summer!! They showed us the pilot...and all the Browncoats in the room outnumbered the 'Terminator' fans, and even then the "T" fans, were also Browncoats, so they suddenly switched gears and made it more 'Cameron'-centric....all the ads, the HUGE billboards, sides of busses, all of it (Heck Jessi has a HUGE WALL sized nylon tarp type 'poster' of Cameron/Summer ala the borg queen look). The next con we go to, we see an obviously jealous acting Lena. The guys are making jokes about 'Summer's the Rock Star'...they are smart enough to know that she's the pull, and they seem happy just to be ridin' her coat tails....but NOT Lena...the interviews were with "John and Sarah"...if one had not been AT the con, they wouldn't have seen how "Summer" focused it was!

Now, I missed WonderCon this last weekend, so I have no idea how things went down this time. Have to look on the OB (Spacegirl emailed me and said she missed me and had written a report)...I know James (DanRegal) was there, but he's usually busy with the booth, although I think I saw some of his photos with Summer. Somebody do some diggin' for a report, I'd be curious about how it went. I'd hate to think of our sweet Summer being treated badly by a prima-donna "Actress"....I feel very protective of her. I missed seeing her at Creation, since we were having lunch with Adam and honestly forgot that her panel was before his. We only got to say hello in the autograph line.

Anyhoo...Looking forward to seeing her at Comic Con. Hope the show is still on by then. :/

[Phyll33]

  I haven't seen a report about Terminator from last weekend but I think on Whedonesque they had
a thread that showed a preview of the rest of the season. I didn't read it because I didn't want to
be spoiled and I got the impression what they showed was very spoilery. The last 3 shows they have
showed was very Sarah oriented and many people have complained about it. Evidently the rest of the
season will be more Summer oriented but I have a feeling it may be too little too late since their audience
has really dropped. The stories have not been well written this season and the quality of the show has
dropped. It looks more cheaply made. What set it apart before were the neat settings and movie like
effects. I guess the cost was too much for them but this show needed that in order to be special, not unlike
Firefly which needed  it's atmosphere to be what it was. Take that away and you have lost a significant
player in the show.

[Saxon]

It seemed like they didn't know what they were doing, and the story lines started going in about a zillion directions. I lost interest, and when I tried to catch up, I got even more confused...for me and Jessi, being the fangurls we are, watching an entire show just to see "Cameron" get all the good snacks to drop in a hospital vending machine just isn't gonna cut it.

[Phyll33]

  It appears Tamara is using her crystal ball to predict the demise of Chuck over on Wheadonesque. I hope
she is wrong again, I love that show and can't understand why it isn't doing better. Probably because to many
that aren't familiar with it it comes across as silly. Maybe this country has just lost it's sense of humor or maybe
those that watch comedies are so used to the half hour format for them they can't wrap themselves around
the comedy drama aspect of it.

[Spooky]

It appears Tamara is using her crystal ball to predict the demise of Chuck over on Wheadonesque.

So that's a good thing? 'cause she is ALWAYS right.