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Title: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on March 23, 2009, 09:49:10 AM
http://www.tv.com/story/13283.html (http://www.tv.com/story/13283.html)

Even Dr. House won't be able to save one of the medical drama's main characters from getting a toe tag.

Who will it be, Death Cat?
It's open season on television characters as several shows end their current cycles, and one mainstay of Fox's House has a gigantic target on his/her forehead. That's the news from E! Online, which says one of the cast members of the medical drama will be killed off the show before the end of the season.

The death is described as a major shocker--both in how it happens and who it happens to. E! Online says it isn't "the most likely candidate" nor is it "someone who has been rumored to be leaving," and that the death "just happens."

A possibly related article over on EW.com says that one major show will be rocked by a major character's shocking (there's that word again) suicide later this season. Could this item also be about House?

I'm by no means a House expert, but one of the House fiends here in the office swears it's going to be Wilson (Robert Sean Leonard), though that's just a guess. Who do you think it will be? And will this person die of lupus?

Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Spooky on March 23, 2009, 09:54:20 AM
My money is on House!
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on March 23, 2009, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: Spooky on March 23, 2009, 09:54:20 AM
My money is on House!

:P
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on March 23, 2009, 01:37:41 PM
[spoiler]Well, we already know that "13" is 'dying'...so she would be (too) obvious...so....that either means they'll trick us with it being her, or it will be Blond boy or Blond girl Doc...I just dunno. I've missed too many eps I think. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on March 23, 2009, 01:51:18 PM
[spoiler]Wilson, by his own hand.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Spooky on March 23, 2009, 01:57:29 PM
I don't watch House anymore, but I just read this spoiler. Holly Crap! There is a lot more going on than you think people. This is crazy!


[spoiler]Can you say, "I bee Rickin' -n-  Rollin'?".  :neener:[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on March 23, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
Quote from: TinkTanker on March 23, 2009, 01:51:18 PM
[spoiler]Wilson, by his own hand.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]He is still pretty messed up over 'b-word blond'....but that will be just like that movie he did when he was a kid!! How sad.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on March 25, 2009, 08:44:53 AM
[spoiler]Losing Wilson would definitely Chuck up House. And seeing as we always need to Chuck up the character the show is about, this seems the logical choice. Unless it's Cuddy.

Damn it, I hate guessing![/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on March 25, 2009, 08:48:23 AM
[spoiler]
Quote from: TinkTanker on March 23, 2009, 01:51:18 PM
Wilson, by his own hand.
Dead Poets Society Reference!

Tink, you're good. It only took me days to put it together.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on March 25, 2009, 08:50:33 AM
Quote from: Eric on March 25, 2009, 08:48:23 AM
[spoiler]
Quote from: TinkTanker on March 23, 2009, 01:51:18 PM
Wilson, by his own hand.
Dead Poets Society Reference!

Tink, you're good. It only took me days to put it together.
[/spoiler]


You give me too much credit. Never seen DPS. :D
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on March 25, 2009, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: TinkTanker on March 25, 2009, 08:50:33 AM
You give me too much credit. Never seen DPS. :D

Well, now you know how it ends.   :haha:
(sorry!)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on March 25, 2009, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: Eric on March 25, 2009, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: TinkTanker on March 25, 2009, 08:50:33 AM
You give me too much credit. Never seen DPS. :D

Well, now you know how it ends.   :haha:
(sorry!)
No prob, if I hadn't bothered to see it by now, I probably never will.

BTW, new info on the one less doc on the team.

[spoiler]Is it true that someone is leaving House at the end of the season? If so, I'd love to know who, or at least get a few hints. — Amanda
MATT: Yeah, a lot of people have been playing catch-up ever since Katie Jacobs told me (back in January) that House's team will be down a person come season's end. Jacobs also said that the events of the finale, like last year's, will have a profound impact on House himself. Having screened next week's Mos Def-initely excellent episode — and in light of recent death/suicide rumors — I can foresee a future where the increasingly put-upon Taub takes his own life, right in House's office. Hmm, might that make Dr. Nasty's demeanor less mean?

http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-Lost-CSI-1004346.aspx (http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-Lost-CSI-1004346.aspx)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on March 25, 2009, 12:05:50 PM
I never watched it either until I was forced to by some special gal in Maryland.

The things we do ... ;)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on March 26, 2009, 03:11:43 PM
When is House on anymore?

I am so confused...they keep moving things around and putting my shows on 'special nights'...and all this stuff.

*grumble cakes*
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on March 26, 2009, 03:24:01 PM
Opposite of Chuck.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on March 26, 2009, 03:26:26 PM
Ahhhhh...that explains it. Now I've got to go to each nets sites and see what I've missed...we ended up not watching either show one night, cuz I just couldn't figure out if I was 'behind an ep'.

Maybe I can catch up on the weekend.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on March 27, 2009, 06:33:26 AM
Quote from: TinkTanker on March 25, 2009, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: Eric on March 25, 2009, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: TinkTanker on March 25, 2009, 08:50:33 AM
You give me too much credit. Never seen DPS. :D

Well, now you know how it ends.   :haha:
(sorry!)
No prob, if I hadn't bothered to see it by now, I probably never will.

BTW, new info on the one less doc on the team.

[spoiler]Is it true that someone is leaving House at the end of the season? If so, I'd love to know who, or at least get a few hints. — Amanda
MATT: Yeah, a lot of people have been playing catch-up ever since Katie Jacobs told me (back in January) that House's team will be down a person come season's end. Jacobs also said that the events of the finale, like last year's, will have a profound impact on House himself. Having screened next week's Mos Def-initely excellent episode — and in light of recent death/suicide rumors — I can foresee a future where the increasingly put-upon Taub takes his own life, right in House's office. Hmm, might that make Dr. Nasty's demeanor less mean?

http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-Lost-CSI-1004346.aspx (http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-Lost-CSI-1004346.aspx)[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Taub does seem a bit unstable. He was unhappy enough to want to quit and start investing in his old friend's scheme. But if he goes out like that there's a lot more going on.[/spoiler]

Looking forward to seeing next week's ep!
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on March 27, 2009, 06:39:38 AM
3 episodes left.

Locked In   3/30/2009

Simple Explanation   4/6/2009
   
Saviors   4/13/2009
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on March 27, 2009, 07:05:28 AM
Quote from: Eric on March 25, 2009, 12:05:50 PM
I never watched it either until I was forced to by some special gal in Maryland.

The things we do ... ;)

Just one more reason to thank her!!
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on March 27, 2009, 07:06:28 AM
Quote from: SerenityValley on March 27, 2009, 07:05:28 AM

Just one more reason to thank her!!

I'd rather thank her for introducing me to Doctor House.  ;)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on March 27, 2009, 07:08:26 AM
Quote from: Eric on March 27, 2009, 07:06:28 AM
Quote from: SerenityValley on March 27, 2009, 07:05:28 AM

Just one more reason to thank her!!

I'd rather thank her for introducing me to Doctor House.  ;)

Don't you mean "playing doctor in the house"??   :angel:
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Phyll33 on March 27, 2009, 08:46:28 AM

  I don't watch House but I'm assuming buying the DVD's would not be a bad thing?


Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on March 27, 2009, 10:25:03 AM
Quote from: Phyll33 on March 27, 2009, 08:46:28 AM

  I don't watch House but I'm assuming buying the DVD's would not be a bad thing?




You wouldn't regret it.  Hilarious show!
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on March 27, 2009, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: Phyll33 on March 27, 2009, 08:46:28 AM

  I don't watch House but I'm assuming buying the DVD's would not be a bad thing?




I absolutely LOVE House! His snark, wit and wicked sense of humor and sarcasm is beyond fun!
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on March 27, 2009, 01:43:37 PM
Quote from: Phyll33 on March 27, 2009, 08:46:28 AM

  I don't watch House but I'm assuming buying the DVD's would not be a bad thing?




I feel in love with, but not at first. I had to kind of warm up to it. It took two or three episodes but it is on my 'do not miss' list.

Might want to Netflix it at first though.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on April 06, 2009, 07:47:02 PM
Okay, I am SO ticked right now I can't see straight!  I DVR'd House tonight cause we were gone when it aired.  So, I sign onto Facebook earlier and there's a post from the House page (they come up in the comments section on my homepage) that says "Sign the memorial for Dr. So-and-So"!  Arrrgggghhhhh!! Now I know for sure which Doc is killed off, but haven't seen it yet.  Frakkin asshats.  (Thanx, Digby, for that term, I feel better now!)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on April 06, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 06, 2009, 07:47:02 PM
Okay, I am SO ticked right now I can't see straight!  I DVR'd House tonight cause we were gone when it aired.  So, I sign onto Facebook earlier and there's a post from the House page (they come up in the comments section on my homepage) that says "Sign the memorial for Dr. So-and-So"!  Arrrgggghhhhh!! Now I know for sure which Doc is killed off, but haven't seen it yet.  Frakkin asshats.  (Thanx, Digby, for that term, I feel better now!)

OMIGOSH! I am so sorry!

You still need to watch the show, cuz it's a very deep and gut punchy ep. Oh man, I am really sorry that was spoiled for you. We were rather freaked that they actually listed a page to go and 'talk about it' after the show!

[spoiler]Almost as if someone had actually died. For a minute it made me wonder, but of course, if the actor had died, we'd have known. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on April 07, 2009, 04:22:30 AM
You learn it very early in the episode.  I had just the opposite effect of Saxon:  A big "eh".
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 08:30:37 AM
My reaction was, "Huh. Didn't see that coming." I guess everyone was expecting [spoiler]Taub[/spoiler] but it didn't floor me or anything. I like the actor.

Ann kept saying that it was a murder, but that was pretty much dispelled.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on April 07, 2009, 08:41:51 AM
Quote from: Saxon on April 06, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 06, 2009, 07:47:02 PM
Okay, I am SO ticked right now I can't see straight!  I DVR'd House tonight cause we were gone when it aired.  So, I sign onto Facebook earlier and there's a post from the House page (they come up in the comments section on my homepage) that says "Sign the memorial for Dr. So-and-So"!  Arrrgggghhhhh!! Now I know for sure which Doc is killed off, but haven't seen it yet.  Frakkin asshats.  (Thanx, Digby, for that term, I feel better now!)

OMIGOSH! I am so sorry!

You still need to watch the show, cuz it's a very deep and gut punchy ep. Oh man, I am really sorry that was spoiled for you. We were rather freaked that they actually listed a page to go and 'talk about it' after the show!

[spoiler]Almost as if someone had actually died. For a minute it made me wonder, but of course, if the actor had died, we'd have known. [/spoiler]

Yep.  Strange.  I'll be watching the ep tonight.  I would have watched it last night but if I watch without Tori, she gets upset!  We like to watch it together, so I guess we'll watch it after ball practice.  I did get to watch Saving Grace and about 1/3 of Chuck.  Tonight, of course, is NCIS!!  Woo-hoo!
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on April 07, 2009, 08:43:42 AM
Quote from: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 08:30:37 AM
My reaction was, "Huh. Didn't see that coming." I guess everyone was expecting [spoiler]Taub[/spoiler] but it didn't floor me or anything. I like the actor.

Ann kept saying that it was a murder, but that was pretty much dispelled.

Friday I was watching episodes of Tru Calling on SciFi.  I'd only seen a couple of them before.  One episode had Kutner as a med student!  Another had Sam from BSG as a firefighter!  Hubba-hubba!!
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html)

It's all Obama's fault.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 08:50:54 AM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 07, 2009, 08:43:42 AM

Friday I was watching episodes of Tru Calling on SciFi.  I'd only seen a couple of them before.  One episode had Kutner as a med student!  Another had Sam from BSG as a firefighter!  Hubba-hubba!!

We are rewatching NCIS from the start and so far we've seen Sawyer as a local cop, Locke as an old friend of Gibbs, and of course Charles Widmore is the director.

But you have to watch Dark Angel to see Dee and Gaeta from BSG and Dinozo in a wheelchair (with glasses). Plus Dean Winchester before he became Whitney 2.0 on Smallville.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 08:53:50 AM
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn288/JakeMongoose/housenotlepus.jpg)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on April 07, 2009, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 08:50:54 AM

We are rewatching NCIS from the start and so far we've seen Sawyer as a local cop, Locke as an old friend of Gibbs, and of course Charles Widmore is the director.

But you have to watch Dark Angel to see Dee and Gaeta from BSG and Dinozo in a wheelchair (with glasses). Plus Dean Winchester before he became Whitney 2.0 on Smallville.

I've seen Dark Angel several times, but it's been awhile.  Of course, I caught Dinozo, but will have to watch for Dee and Gaeta.  Don't watch Smallville, so no clue who that is!

Who are Sawyer and Locke?  I'm drawing a blank!
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on April 07, 2009, 09:25:07 AM
Quote from: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html)

It's all Obama's fault.
Yep!

http://tv.popcrunch.com/kal-penn-death-on-house-kutners-suicide-kal-pen-leaving-house-for-obama-white-house-job/ (http://tv.popcrunch.com/kal-penn-death-on-house-kutners-suicide-kal-pen-leaving-house-for-obama-white-house-job/)

When Jessi and Gingi went to the DNC in Denver, Jessi (who was always my 'tater tot' *couch potatoe partner*) called saying, "It's really depressing seeing all the celebs I 'used to' like leaving here...the Indian Doctor Dude on House just walked past me...".

*sigh*

Well, at least I can watch House without feeling so gut punched now. heh.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 09:27:37 AM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 07, 2009, 09:23:26 AM

Who are Sawyer and Locke?  I'm drawing a blank!

Characters from Lost.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q2iQkra7ffU/SPR7RNdQMSI/AAAAAAAABsw/bXrD2PEU-9A/s320/sawyer_lost.jpg)

Sawyer

(http://www.schrankmonster.de/content/binary/1097400304_sktoplocke.jpg)

Locke
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on April 07, 2009, 09:39:12 AM
Obama's always been about Image (TM).  I have no doubt he'll do everything possible in which to improve or keep said image.  I also have no doubt that Hollywood will do her best to help.  

[spoiler]
Perhaps this is why I was unexcited by last night's episode:
QuoteSo why not just have Kutner take a new job at a different hospital?
SHORE: The suicide was essential to [the story]. The lack of reason behind it -- the lack of answers -- was what I responded to and is what I got excited about
To me, it felt like ex machina.  No hints leading up to it; nothing revealed after.  Yes, I know that they're trying to push out the point that some suicides have no outward signs.  But unless something fantastic happened, like he discovered Obama actually isn't the Messiah, I am just not feeling it for this episode.

Now, had they put in small clues in each episode this season and did a flashback at the end of last night's (whether House figures it out or not), I'd have found it much-more believable and possibly given me the "Why didn't ~I~ see it coming?" feeling.
[/spoiler]
Of course, your mileage may vary. :)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on April 07, 2009, 09:45:21 AM
Quote from: Eric on April 07, 2009, 09:39:12 AM
Obama's always been about Image (TM).  I have no doubt he'll do everything possible in which to improve or keep said image.  I also have no doubt that Hollywood will do her best to help.  

[spoiler]
Perhaps this is why I was unexcited by last night's episode:
QuoteSo why not just have Kutner take a new job at a different hospital?
SHORE: The suicide was essential to [the story]. The lack of reason behind it -- the lack of answers -- was what I responded to and is what I got excited about
To me, it felt like ex machina.  No hints leading up to it; nuthin' revealed after.  Yes, I know that they're trying to push out the point that some suicides have no outward signs.  But unless something fantastic happened, like he discovered Obama actually isn't the Messiah, I am just not feeling it for this episode.

Now, had they put in small clues in each episode this season and did a flashback at the end of last night's (whether House figures it out or not), I'd have found it much-more believable and possibly given me the "Why didn't ~I~ see it coming?" feeling.
[/spoiler]
Of course, your mileage may vary. :)

[spoiler]The ONLY thing they 'gave us' was House looking through his photos, and we see that ONE pic of him looking upset. Now, if you saw the previews for the next ep, they are going to be bringing him up again...so maybe they will make this more believable and make a bit more sense. Other than that, yeah, even though House has had almost supernatural powers of observation and deduction, at least it was always grounded in reality...so they better 'real it up' a bit. Maybe we'll 'see something' in the next ep. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on April 07, 2009, 10:37:23 AM
Quote from: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 09:27:37 AM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 07, 2009, 09:23:26 AM

Who are Sawyer and Locke?  I'm drawing a blank!

Characters from Lost.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q2iQkra7ffU/SPR7RNdQMSI/AAAAAAAABsw/bXrD2PEU-9A/s320/sawyer_lost.jpg)

Sawyer

(http://www.schrankmonster.de/content/binary/1097400304_sktoplocke.jpg)

Locke

Ah!  That explains it, I don't watch Lost, either.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on April 07, 2009, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: TinkTanker on April 07, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html)

It's all Obama's fault.

Saw a blurb on IMDb. Oh well. Be fruitful...and annoying.

Kal Penn was AWESOME in The Namesake.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on April 07, 2009, 07:25:30 PM
I got impatient and looked for spoilers, and read that it was gonna be Kutner. I didn't take it too seriously, but when Remy and Foreman weren't getting an answer from knocking on his door, I immediately said, they really are doing it (killing him off)!

I see it more as a "sometimes there is no answer/reason" episode. I haven't re-watched it, but you can usually link what's going on in the patient's story with a character's story.

I have borrowed from the IMDb user-contributed synopsis.

This story is all about guilt and love.
Guilt over Kutner's suicide; Charlotte's guilt over taking the fantasy trip to Rio without her husband; Eddie's guilt over not treating his wife better. Love between two people; love between parent(s) and child; love among friends.

* Taub thinks guilt is a waste of time, since Kutner is an idiot for killing himself.

* Kutner called his adoptive parents Mr. and Mrs. Kutner for years, until they gave him a chemistry set. Then they were mom and dad.

* 13 runs a test on Charlotte, who talks about the fact her husband never loved her as much as she loved him. But she wants to give her heart to her husband if she dies.

* Taub runs his test on Eddie, who talks about wanting more time with his wife, to treat her better. (Guilt)

* 13 shows up on Foreman's doorstep. He wants to work through things alone.

* Taub and 13 try to help Charlotte, who's seizing on the floor. She broke free from her bed and injected herself with anything she could grab. Taub knows she was trying to kill herself to save her husband. They stabilize her, but her liver is now shot. Taub thinks it was selfless.

* Eddie wants to give his liver to Charlotte. They want to tell her that her husband is giving a partial kidney donation and then "let" him die on the table so they can take the whole thing. However he has a fungal infection, not cancer. It's curable. He tells House to do the transplant. If not now, then he can do it when Eddie gets out and is hit by a car and shows up in his morgue.

* House thinks they were both ready to die for guilt, not love. But Taub thinks you can't have that much guilt without love.

* Foreman takes 13's hand.

* Alone at the hospital, Taub finally cries.

Who's lying?
* House confronts Charlotte for lying. She didn't go to Hawaii; she went to Rio, where they have sand fleas that could infect her. She confesses. She went last year, not with anyone Eddie knew.

* House wants to know what Kutner was hiding and why. There's a picture on the wall of Kutner with his adoptive parents and another of him with his dead parents. That means he wasn't hiding from the pain.

In the end
House tries to make sense of it all by rooting through Kutner's apartment one last time. He finds a moody picture of Kutner, inscrutable. As the episode's title suggests, is this picture the "simple explanation" for Kutner killing himself? No.

The problem is there is no simple explanation. Or worse, there is none.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on April 07, 2009, 07:26:21 PM
Next week:

[spoiler]Cuddy to Cameron: Are you in love with House? 

Duh![/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on April 09, 2009, 07:23:25 AM
Apparently, Kal Penn took off without much notice, since he never actually appeared in this ep (just my speculation).

As much as I love House, I thought this ep sucked pretty bad.  Sad, considering they had MeatLoaf guest star.  It felt like it was poorly written, poorly developed and thrown together at the last minute.  Hope next week is back to the high standard I expect from this great show.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Spooky on April 09, 2009, 09:09:10 AM
Dying for White House gig
'House' actor killed off to take on new role
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Fans of TV's "House" were stunned by Monday's mind-blowing episode in which Kal Penn's beloved character, Dr. Lawrence Kutner, inexplicably committed suicide.

Hours later a bigger shocker was revealed. Penn was leaving "House" for a job in President Obama's White House.

"(Politics) is something I've been passionate about," Penn said in a telephone press conference yesterday. "For the folks who know me, they know I have these dueling passions, the arts and public service. So they are not shocked at all."

Penn, who stumped for Obama during his campaign, will be an associate director in the White House Office of Public Liaison, connecting the president with Asian-American and Pacific Islander communities, as well as arts and entertainment groups, according to White House spokesman Shin Inouye.

Which is a leap for an actor who prior to "House" was best-known for his role as a famished stoner in "Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle" and its 2008 sequel, "Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay."

UCLA-grad Penn, 31, has been boning up on public policy since 2006, taking online courses in international studies at Stanford. He was also an adjunct faculty member at the University of Pennsylvania, teaching a course in Images of Asian Americans in the Media and a seminar in Contemporary American Teen Films.

Penn's unexpected exit on "House" was a 24-hour mash up of real and fictional events that had many folks scratching their heads. At the conclusion of Monday's "House," fans of Penn's Kutner character were directed to an online memorial on Fox-TV's Web site, complete with a memorial video, mock obituary, handwritten notes from fellow characters and a Facebook page, about 12,000 members strong as of yesterday.

"When I heard (about) it, I just said, "Don't put any of my real family photos on the Web site," Penn said.

The New Jersey-born Penn obviously won't be returning to "House," but don't expect to see him in another "Harold and Kumar" movie anytime soon.

"I don't want to squash anyone's hopes or dreams, but I'm moving to Washington to take on this position and I'm not going to be acting while serving in the White House," Penn said. "Who is to say three, four, five years (from now), but it's not on the radar."

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2009_04_08_Dying_for_White_House_gig:_%E2%80%98House__actor_killed_off_to_take_on_new_role/srvc=home&position=1 (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2009_04_08_Dying_for_White_House_gig:_%E2%80%98House__actor_killed_off_to_take_on_new_role/srvc=home&position=1)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on April 09, 2009, 10:19:22 AM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 09, 2009, 07:23:25 AM
Apparently, Kal Penn took off without much notice, since he never actually appeared in this ep (just my speculation).

As much as I love House, I thought this ep sucked pretty bad.  Sad, considering they had MeatLoaf guest star.  It felt like it was poorly written, poorly developed and thrown together at the last minute.  Hope next week is back to the high standard I expect from this great show.

Nope, not true.

When did you first learn Kal was thinking of leaving House?
DAVID SHORE: It was very early in the process that he told us that he might [at some point] want to move on and work in politics. He has been involved in a number of other things [while working on House]. He worked very extensively for the Obama campaign and he's been teaching at Penn. Kal is a man with broader ambitions than the entertainment industry. So he spoke to us and said, 'I love the show and I love working with these people, but there are things that I would like to do.' And you sort of think, 'That's admirable, but there's no way he's going to do it.' This is a good gig he's got here.

KATIE JACOBS: As thyme went on, it was still on his mind. And then we took a writers retreat right at the beginning of December and David sort of had this "A-ha" moment about how to both free Kal up to pursue other things and, most importantly, service where David wants to go at the end of the season with House's story.

SHORE: The fact that it happened over a long period of thyme allowed him to pursue his goals as a human being, but also allowed us to make it work within the confines of the show.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html)


I think this episode suffered from major disjointedness.  But looking back, this episode wasn't really much different than previous ones ~ the formula is going back and forth between patients/the case and the characters. Maybe the fact it was a character gone without warning.

The core House-ness was there ~ it was about hiding from yourself and others and ultimately being honest with yourself and others. Even if you do put a gun to your head.

Doesn't make it right. But supposedly it's a vehicle for a change in House. But honestly, how many vehicles does this guy need?! We'll just watch and see.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on April 09, 2009, 11:20:38 AM
Someone over at HotAir pointed out that House's instincts are nearly almost-always right in the end.  So, I'd say there's still a chance of their taking it a step up.  Since deaths are traditionally done at season's end, there's a chance this could be a part of a multi-story arc culiminating with season finale.

I know a lot of people had quit watching House because it's too formulaic, but they miss the point. I've been saying this for years and years:  It doesn't matter if  you know at the end of the story that "the butler did it".  It doesn't.  It's the story that gets you to that point which matters.  House isn't as much about healing others as it is about healing himself; about understanding what it means to be a human being.  Well, and hearing his insults. ;)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on April 09, 2009, 11:52:09 AM
Quote from: Pearl@32 on April 09, 2009, 10:19:22 AM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 09, 2009, 07:23:25 AM
Apparently, Kal Penn took off without much notice, since he never actually appeared in this ep (just my speculation).

As much as I love House, I thought this ep sucked pretty bad.  Sad, considering they had MeatLoaf guest star.  It felt like it was poorly written, poorly developed and thrown together at the last minute.  Hope next week is back to the high standard I expect from this great show.

Nope, not true.

When did you first learn Kal was thinking of leaving House?
DAVID SHORE: It was very early in the process that he told us that he might [at some point] want to move on and work in politics. He has been involved in a number of other things [while working on House]. He worked very extensively for the Obama campaign and he's been teaching at Penn. Kal is a man with broader ambitions than the entertainment industry. So he spoke to us and said, 'I love the show and I love working with these people, but there are things that I would like to do.' And you sort of think, 'That's admirable, but there's no way he's going to do it.' This is a good gig he's got here.

KATIE JACOBS: As thyme went on, it was still on his mind. And then we took a writers retreat right at the beginning of December and David sort of had this "A-ha" moment about how to both free Kal up to pursue other things and, most importantly, service where David wants to go at the end of the season with House's story.

SHORE: The fact that it happened over a long period of thyme allowed him to pursue his goals as a human being, but also allowed us to make it work within the confines of the show.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html)


I think this episode suffered from major disjointedness.  But looking back, this episode wasn't really much different than previous ones ~ the formula is going back and forth between patients/the case and the characters. Maybe the fact it was a character gone without warning.

The core House-ness was there ~ it was about hiding from yourself and others and ultimately being honest with yourself and others. Even if you do put a gun to your head.

Doesn't make it right. But supposedly it's a vehicle for a change in House. But honestly, how many vehicles does this guy need?! We'll just watch and see.

"It was very early in the process that he told us that he might [at some point] want to move on and work in politics. He has been involved in a number of other things [while working on House]. He worked very extensively for the Obama campaign and he's been teaching at Penn. Kal is a man with broader ambitions than the entertainment industry. So he spoke to us and said, 'I love the show and I love working with these people, but there are things that I would like to do.' And you sort of think, 'That's admirable, but there's no way he's going to do it.' This is a good gig he's got here."

So, they knew it was a possiblility, doesn't mean he didn't come in one day, recently, and say "Oh, btw, this is my last episode".  It still feels to me like it was sudden.  (It is not out of the realm of possibility that I am way off, but still).   I keep going back to the fact that he was not in this ep at all.  Even when they found his "body", it was just his feet and legs in the shot.

Ah, well, anyway, here's hoping the next ep is not as disappointing to me as this one was.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on April 09, 2009, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 09, 2009, 11:52:09 AM
So, they knew it was a possiblility, doesn't mean he didn't come in one day, recently, and say "Oh, btw, this is my last episode".  It still feels to me like it was sudden.  (It is not out of the realm of possibility that I am way off, but still).   

Some people have said that the episode was an analogy for his career as an actor.   :loloeo:

Seriously, though, I can't begrudge him for wanting to serve a president in-which he believes, nor for wanting to put himself into a much lower tax bracket.  :loloeo:
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on April 09, 2009, 02:28:55 PM
Just bring on the Hameron!!
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Spooky on April 09, 2009, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: Eric on April 09, 2009, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 09, 2009, 11:52:09 AM
So, they knew it was a possiblility, doesn't mean he didn't come in one day, recently, and say "Oh, btw, this is my last episode".  It still feels to me like it was sudden.  (It is not out of the realm of possibility that I am way off, but still).   

Some people have said that the episode was an analogy for his career as an actor.   :loloeo:

Seriously, though, I can't begrudge him for wanting to serve a president in-which he believes, nor for wanting to put himself into a much lower tax bracket.  :loloeo:

I wonder how much use he gets from his "Head of State"?
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Eric on April 09, 2009, 02:45:36 PM
Quote from: Spooky on April 09, 2009, 02:34:37 PM
I wonder how much use he gets from his "Head of State"?

+1 karma  :loloeo:
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on April 10, 2009, 06:27:08 AM
Quote from: Pearl@32 on April 09, 2009, 02:28:55 PM
Just bring on the Hameron!!

Ewww!  I like her with Chase.  House looks like he's old enough to be her father.  (I always tease Victoria because she thinks he's cute.  ugh!)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on April 10, 2009, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: SerenityValley on April 10, 2009, 06:27:08 AM
Quote from: Pearl@32 on April 09, 2009, 02:28:55 PM
Just bring on the Hameron!!

Ewww!  I like her with Chase.  House looks like he's old enough to be her father.  (I always tease Victoria because she thinks he's cute.  ugh!)

House? Gorgeous eyes. He can clean up nice, but I want him playing daddy to boss' baby! hehe.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on April 13, 2009, 06:39:15 PM
You know it would just so frakking figure that Fios decided we didn't have enough CW in our life and started broadcasting CW on Fox's channel, 50 minutes into House. W-T-F?

AND, I taped the wrong channel for Chuck on the other tv. (Saw the last 5 minutes though.)

9:32 ~ 24 is back on.

I knew I should've gotten the DVR. I was trying to save us $20 a month. When all was said and done, it would have been about the same as we would have been paying with Comcast, but at least we'd have a way to tape shows.

I have had a SHITTY day. I'm not even in the mood to watch Castle.

Read a synopsis of House on the Fox board. [spoiler]There is no hope for Hameron, just Huddy sex.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: SerenityValley on April 13, 2009, 08:08:46 PM
Quote from: Pearl@32 on April 13, 2009, 06:39:15 PM
You know it would just so frakking figure that Fios decided we didn't have enough CW in our life and started broadcasting CW on Fox's channel, 50 minutes into House. W-T-F?

AND, I taped the wrong channel for Chuck on the other tv. (Saw the last 5 minutes though.)....

I have had a SHITTY day.
Read a synopsis of House on the Fox board.

I'm sorry, Mrs. Mulder.  I hope tomorrow is better!  And why on earth would anyone think a CW show would be better than House??  Not even One Tree Hill (which I actually watch) can compare to House!

QuoteI'm not even in the mood to watch Castle.

Now that's just blasphemy!  ;)
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on April 13, 2009, 09:18:57 PM
Quote from: Pearl@32 on April 13, 2009, 06:39:15 PM
You know it would just so frakking figure that Fios decided we didn't have enough CW in our life and started broadcasting CW on Fox's channel, 50 minutes into House. W-T-F?

AND, I taped the wrong channel for Chuck on the other tv. (Saw the last 5 minutes though.)

9:32 ~ 24 is back on.

I knew I should've gotten the DVR. I was trying to save us $20 a month. When all was said and done, it would have been about the same as we would have been paying with Comcast, but at least we'd have a way to tape shows.

I have had a SHITTY day. I'm not even in the mood to watch Castle.

Read a synopsis of House on the Fox board. [spoiler]There is no hope for Hameron, just Huddy sex.[/spoiler]

What you just described is the reason I've been wary of getting any of the new 'recording devices'. I don't want to pay for something that I'd never be able to figure out! It took me three days of glitchy out of sync viewing to watch two eps of Chuck that I was behind on. I've given up trying to watch T:TSCC to 'catch up' on all I've missed.

Castle should cheer you up though. He's just too durn purty.

I'm taking a break while 'Dancing' is on. I'll have to watch the glitchy "Chuck" ep later....cuz I still seek 'em out online. I've given up on trying to wait to watch stuff with Jessi, there's just not enough time for us to catch up on all the stuff we would be watching together if she weren't in school. :(
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Pearl@32 on April 15, 2009, 07:23:06 AM
Thanks all.

Luckily, Fios has most primetim shows on demand ~ except for Castle.  :veryangry:  So I have to make sure I tape that.

It would probably have been worth it to get the DVR. But eh, there is this thing called an upgrade. <mine is an evil laugh>
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on April 15, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
Oh, BTW, Jennifer Morrison will be playing Kirk's mommy in Star Trek.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: Saxon on April 15, 2009, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: TinkTanker on April 15, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
Oh, BTW, Jennifer Morrison will be playing Kirk's mommy in Star Trek.

Oh. Wow.
Title: Re: Which doctor is going to die??
Post by: TinkTanker on April 21, 2009, 11:01:36 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/20/article-1172164-048EDA4A000005DC-262_468x366.jpg)

Young James Kirk and mommy.